2 delivery failures for mail sent to the list

[Nigel Henry]

On Wednesday 20 September 2006 00:19, David Relson wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:47:56 +0200
>
> Nigel Henry wrote:
> > On Tuesday 19 September 2006 22:17, Tom Anderson wrote:
> > > I too only get this behavior on this list.  I concur that it is
> > > incorrect.  Only the list server ought to receive undeliverable
> > > messages in order to remove those addresses from the list.  List
> > > members do not care who else is subscribed or not.  This should be
> > > remedied.
> > >
> > > Tom
> >
> > Hi Tom. I'm glad someone agrees with me, as this is quite annoying,
> > and as I said a waste, although a small waste, of bandwidth.
> >
> > that problem aside, Bogofilter works really well. and I'm not
> > knocking that.
> >
> > Nigel.
>
> Hello Nigel,
>
> The mailman program handles sending out mailing list messages.  The
> mailman configuration hasn't changed in several years.
>
> Each message includes the following header lines (among others):
>
> From: Your.Name<your_id at your_domain.com)
> To: bogofilter at bogofilter.org
> Sender: bogofilter-bounces+recipient=domain.com at bogofilter.org
> List-Id: bogofilter users list <bogofilter.bogofilter.org>
> List-Unsubscribe:
>  <http://www.bogofilter.org/mailman/listinfo/bogofilter>,
>  <mailto:bogofilter-request at bogofilter.org?subject=unsubscribe>
> List-Archive: <http://www.bogofilter.org/pipermail/bogofilter>
> List-Post: <mailto:bogofilter at bogofilter.org>
> List-Help:
>  <mailto:bogofilter-request at bogofilter.org?subject=help>
>
> List-Subscribe: <http://www.bogofilter.org/mailman/listinfo/bogofilter>,
>  <mailto:bogofilter-request at bogofilter.org?subject=subscribe>
>
> Ideally bounce messages go to the "Sender:" address where mailman
> recognizes them, processes them, and (when messages are bounced several
> days in a row) stops sending messages to the bounced recipient.
>
> In some cases, bounced messages go to the "From:" address.  This
> happens when a mail program is improperly configured and accounts for
> the messages you're seeing.
>
> If you look carefully at the headers of a bounced message, you'll see
> that it was not sent to your mail server from 216.144.204.42 (which is
> bogofilter's mail server) but was sent to you from elsewhere.
>
> At present, there are 2 bogofilter subscribers that are bouncing
> messages that haven't been nuked yet by mailman.  One is in New Zealand
> (server: server.rotronix.co.nz [203.109.215.142]) and the other is in
> Australia (smtp.syd.people.net.au [218.214.225.98])..
>
>
>  HTH,
>
> David

Hi David. Thanks for the feedback. Those two subscribers you mention, appear 
to be the culprits causing the problem. At least they're turning up in the 
unsure folder, so even Bogofilter isn't happy with them.

Nigel.