2 delivery failures for mail sent to the list

[David Relson]

On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 22:47:56 +0200
Nigel Henry wrote:

> On Tuesday 19 September 2006 22:17, Tom Anderson wrote:
> > I too only get this behavior on this list.  I concur that it is
> > incorrect.  Only the list server ought to receive undeliverable
> > messages in order to remove those addresses from the list.  List
> > members do not care who else is subscribed or not.  This should be
> > remedied.
> >
> > Tom
> 
> Hi Tom. I'm glad someone agrees with me, as this is quite annoying,
> and as I said a waste, although a small waste, of bandwidth.
> 
> that problem aside, Bogofilter works really well. and I'm not
> knocking that.
> 
> Nigel.


Hello Nigel,

The mailman program handles sending out mailing list messages.  The
mailman configuration hasn't changed in several years.

Each message includes the following header lines (among others):

From: Your.Name<your_id at your_domain.com)
To: bogofilter at bogofilter.org
Sender: bogofilter-bounces+recipient=domain.com at bogofilter.org
List-Id: bogofilter users list <bogofilter.bogofilter.org>
List-Unsubscribe:
	<http://www.bogofilter.org/mailman/listinfo/bogofilter>,
	<mailto:bogofilter-request at bogofilter.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.bogofilter.org/pipermail/bogofilter>
List-Post: <mailto:bogofilter at bogofilter.org> 
List-Help:
	<mailto:bogofilter-request at bogofilter.org?subject=help>

List-Subscribe: <http://www.bogofilter.org/mailman/listinfo/bogofilter>,
	<mailto:bogofilter-request at bogofilter.org?subject=subscribe>

Ideally bounce messages go to the "Sender:" address where mailman
recognizes them, processes them, and (when messages are bounced several
days in a row) stops sending messages to the bounced recipient.

In some cases, bounced messages go to the "From:" address.  This
happens when a mail program is improperly configured and accounts for
the messages you're seeing.

If you look carefully at the headers of a bounced message, you'll see
that it was not sent to your mail server from 216.144.204.42 (which is
bogofilter's mail server) but was sent to you from elsewhere.

At present, there are 2 bogofilter subscribers that are bouncing
messages that haven't been nuked yet by mailman.  One is in New Zealand
(server: server.rotronix.co.nz [203.109.215.142]) and the other is in
Australia (smtp.syd.people.net.au [218.214.225.98])..


 HTH,

David