mail.aotto.com blackholed

[David Relson]

At 02:35 PM 5/16/03, David Carmean wrote:

>On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 07:22:37PM +0100, Peter Bishop wrote:
> > On 16 May 2003 at 8:25, David Relson wrote:
> >
> > > A few months ago, I had the inverse problem.  I was forced to change DSL
> > > providers and my new static ip address was/is on some blacklists, 
> because
> > > it's in an address block previously used by spammer Alan 
> Ralsky.  Aotto.com
> > > was using one of those RBLs.  The result was that I couldn't post to the
> > > bogofilter list.  The RBL wouldn't change their listing, so Adrian 
> stopped
> > > using it.
> > >
> > I had the similar problem when sending to the bogofilter list.
> > My IP address was in a block of addreses that  transiently appeared on the
> > SpamCop list. This (I think) was being used by aotto.com (or associated
> > ISP) for filtering.
> > I must say I am unimpressed by blacklisting, it affects too many innocent
> > bystanders.
>
>
>Isn't a large (but dubious, IMO) part of the goal of blacklisting to
>cause enough collateral damage that the wrongly-listed parties will
>demand that their provider shut down the access of the spammer?
>Of course this strongarm tactic fails completely if the blacklist
>maintainers are slow to react to and investigate problem reports/removal
>requests.

Indeed, that's one part of it.  However it's also necessary for the 
blacklister to be responsible, i.e. remove the innocent bystanders from the 
list in a timely manner.  Some blacklisters have no contact info to request 
an address be checked (and removed).