[bogofilter-bounces+87e5ba617cc6abb22ff1d3edbee80e1de56b4641 at bogofilter.org: Bogofilter mailing list probe message]

Bob Vincent bob at html.com
Mon Jul 19 20:34:23 CEST 2004


Interesting.

I just got one.

My DNS has all the required (and optional) settings, and it's hosted
with one of the most reliable providers in North America.

mmm....

I've got two guesses for the root of the problem:

  1. The DNS server accessed by mail.osagesoftware.com is overloaded
     and sometimes fails to return correct info.

  2. The .ORG nameservers are overloaded, and sometimes fail to return
     correct info.  

#2 may be the more likely scenario.  There are only two .ORG
nameservers.  They're both owned and operated by UltraDNS, and they
both went DOWN at the same time on Monday morning a couple of weeks
ago.

Hmm....  I oughtta put a Nagios tracer on them and report back on how
often per month they're unavailable...

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This is a probe message.  You can ignore this message.

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In-Reply-To: <200407190959.18298.brenda at wallace.net.nz> from "Brenda O'Hagan"
	at Jul 19, 2004 09:59:16 AM
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I get these from time to time from this list, too.

-- 
- Dave Lovelace
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Brenda O'Hagan wrote:
> 
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> anyone else getting lots of these..
> looks like a DNS problem either @ osagesoftware.com (who are they?)
> or with my DNS provider for wallace.net.nz..
> 
> can anyone help me work this one out??  do i need to complain to my=20
> wallace.net.nz DNS provider?
> 
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> 
> This is a probe message.  You can ignore this message.
> 
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> examine this message to make sure there are no problems with your
> email address.  You may want to check with your mail administrator for
> more help.
> 
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> 
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>  http://www.bogofilter.org/mailman/options/bogofilter/brenda%40wallace.net.=
> nz
> 
> 
> On your membership page, you can change various delivery options such
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> 
>     oxufuf
> 
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> X-Original-To: bogofilter-bounces+brenda=wallace.net.nz at bogofilter.org
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> Received: by mail.osagesoftware.com (Postfix)
> 	id DC5552FFB5; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 01:30:10 -0400 (EDT)
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> From: MAILER-DAEMON at mail.osagesoftware.com (Mail Delivery System)
> Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
> To: bogofilter-bounces+brenda=wallace.net.nz at bogofilter.org
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;
> 	boundary="A485F2FFE9.1090042210/mail.osagesoftware.com"
> Message-Id: <20040717053010.DC5552FFB5 at mail.osagesoftware.com>
> 
> This is a MIME-encapsulated message.
> 
> --A485F2FFE9.1090042210/mail.osagesoftware.com
> Content-Description: Notification
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> This is the Postfix program at host mail.osagesoftware.com.
> 
> I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned
> below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.
> 
> For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster>
> 
> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
> delete your own text from the message returned below.
> 
> 			The Postfix program
> 
> <brenda at wallace.net.nz>: Host or domain name not found. Name service error for
>     name=wallace.net.nz type=A: Host found but no data record of requested type
> 
> --A485F2FFE9.1090042210/mail.osagesoftware.com
> Content-Description: Delivery report
> Content-Type: message/delivery-status
> 
> Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.osagesoftware.com
> X-Postfix-Queue-ID: A485F2FFE9
> X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822;
> 	bogofilter-bounces+brenda=wallace.net.nz at bogofilter.org
> Arrival-Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 01:30:00 -0400 (EDT)
> 
> Final-Recipient: rfc822; brenda at wallace.net.nz
> Action: failed
> Status: 5.0.0
> Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; Host or domain name not found. Name service error
> 	for name=wallace.net.nz type=A: Host found but no data record
> 	of requested type
> 
> --A485F2FFE9.1090042210/mail.osagesoftware.com
> Content-Description: Undelivered Message
> Content-Type: message/rfc822
> 
> Received: from nic.osagesoftware.com (localhost.osagesoftware.com [127.0.0.1])
> 	by mail.osagesoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A485F2FFE9
> 	for <brenda at wallace.net.nz>; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 01:30:00 -0400 (EDT)
> X-Original-To: bogofilter at bogofilter.org
> Delivered-To: bogofilter at mail.osagesoftware.com
> Received: from mmp-1.gci.net (mmp-1.gci.net [208.138.130.80])
> 	by mail.osagesoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908672FDE4
> 	for <bogofilter at bogofilter.org>; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 01:29:51 -0400 (EDT)
> Received: from [192.168.0.101] ([24.237.92.128])
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> 	18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I0Z00G6UDXBCS at mmp-1.gci.net> for
> 	bogofilter at bogofilter.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:29:37 -0800 (AKDT)
> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:37:13 -0800
> From: Barsalou <barjunk at attglobal.net>
> To: bogofilter at bogofilter.org
> Message-id: <1090042633.4915.309.camel at localhost>
> MIME-version: 1.0
> X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-7)
> Content-type: text/plain
> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
> Subject: Testing if it works
> X-BeenThere: bogofilter at bogofilter.org
> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
> Precedence: list
> List-Id: bogofilter users list <bogofilter.bogofilter.org>
> List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.bogofilter.org/mailman/listinfo/bogofilter>,
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> Sender: bogofilter-bounces+brenda=wallace.net.nz at bogofilter.org
> Errors-To: bogofilter-bounces+brenda=wallace.net.nz at bogofilter.org
> 
> After reading the man page again, I started thinking that the following
> command would help me identify good -o values:
> 
> cat /home/mike/spamfile | bogofilter -e -p -M -o 0.8,0.2 | grep -e
> ogosity
> 
> If an entry comes back as Unsure, then my values need to be changed. 
> This assumes that all the mail in /home/mike/spamfile is in fact spam.
> 
> I could do the reverse for ham.
> 
> I also believe that this would not reclassify any the spam...because
> there is the missing -s, -n, or -u.
> 
> Is this even close to right?
> 
> Mike
> -- 
> Barsalou <barjunk at attglobal.net>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Bogofilter mailing list
> Bogofilter at bogofilter.org
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> 
> --Boundary-00=_0Kv+Al14or9CpHo
> Content-Type: message/rfc822;
>   charset="us-ascii";
>   name=" "
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> 
> Return-Path: <>
> X-Original-To: bogofilter-bounces+brenda=wallace.net.nz at bogofilter.org
> Delivered-To: bogofilter-bounces+brenda=wallace.net.nz at mail.osagesoftware.com
> Received: by mail.osagesoftware.com (Postfix)
> 	id DC5552FFB5; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 01:30:10 -0400 (EDT)
> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 01:30:10 -0400 (EDT)
> From: MAILER-DAEMON at mail.osagesoftware.com (Mail Delivery System)
> Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
> To: bogofilter-bounces+brenda=wallace.net.nz at bogofilter.org
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;
> 	boundary="A485F2FFE9.1090042210/mail.osagesoftware.com"
> Message-Id: <20040717053010.DC5552FFB5 at mail.osagesoftware.com>
> 
> This is a MIME-encapsulated message.
> 
> --A485F2FFE9.1090042210/mail.osagesoftware.com
> Content-Description: Notification
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> This is the Postfix program at host mail.osagesoftware.com.
> 
> I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned
> below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.
> 
> For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster>
> 
> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
> delete your own text from the message returned below.
> 
> 			The Postfix program
> 
> <brenda at wallace.net.nz>: Host or domain name not found. Name service error for
>     name=wallace.net.nz type=A: Host found but no data record of requested type
> 
> --A485F2FFE9.1090042210/mail.osagesoftware.com
> Content-Description: Delivery report
> Content-Type: message/delivery-status
> 
> Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.osagesoftware.com
> X-Postfix-Queue-ID: A485F2FFE9
> X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822;
> 	bogofilter-bounces+brenda=wallace.net.nz at bogofilter.org
> Arrival-Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 01:30:00 -0400 (EDT)
> 
> Final-Recipient: rfc822; brenda at wallace.net.nz
> Action: failed
> Status: 5.0.0
> Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; Host or domain name not found. Name service error
> 	for name=wallace.net.nz type=A: Host found but no data record
> 	of requested type
> 
> --A485F2FFE9.1090042210/mail.osagesoftware.com
> Content-Description: Undelivered Message
> Content-Type: message/rfc822
> 
> Received: from nic.osagesoftware.com (localhost.osagesoftware.com [127.0.0.1])
> 	by mail.osagesoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A485F2FFE9
> 	for <brenda at wallace.net.nz>; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 01:30:00 -0400 (EDT)
> X-Original-To: bogofilter at bogofilter.org
> Delivered-To: bogofilter at mail.osagesoftware.com
> Received: from mmp-1.gci.net (mmp-1.gci.net [208.138.130.80])
> 	by mail.osagesoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908672FDE4
> 	for <bogofilter at bogofilter.org>; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 01:29:51 -0400 (EDT)
> Received: from [192.168.0.101] ([24.237.92.128])
> 	by mmp-1.gci.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar
> 	18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I0Z00G6UDXBCS at mmp-1.gci.net> for
> 	bogofilter at bogofilter.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:29:37 -0800 (AKDT)
> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:37:13 -0800
> From: Barsalou <barjunk at attglobal.net>
> To: bogofilter at bogofilter.org
> Message-id: <1090042633.4915.309.camel at localhost>
> MIME-version: 1.0
> X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-7)
> Content-type: text/plain
> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
> Subject: Testing if it works
> X-BeenThere: bogofilter at bogofilter.org
> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
> Precedence: list
> List-Id: bogofilter users list <bogofilter.bogofilter.org>
> List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.bogofilter.org/mailman/listinfo/bogofilter>,
> 	<mailto:bogofilter-request at bogofilter.org?subject=unsubscribe>
> List-Archive: <http://www.bogofilter.org/pipermail/bogofilter>
> List-Post: <mailto:bogofilter at bogofilter.org>
> List-Help: <mailto:bogofilter-request at bogofilter.org?subject=help>
> List-Subscribe: <http://www.bogofilter.org/mailman/listinfo/bogofilter>,
> 	<mailto:bogofilter-request at bogofilter.org?subject=subscribe>
> Sender: bogofilter-bounces+brenda=wallace.net.nz at bogofilter.org
> Errors-To: bogofilter-bounces+brenda=wallace.net.nz at bogofilter.org
> 
> After reading the man page again, I started thinking that the following
> command would help me identify good -o values:
> 
> cat /home/mike/spamfile | bogofilter -e -p -M -o 0.8,0.2 | grep -e
> ogosity
> 
> If an entry comes back as Unsure, then my values need to be changed. 
> This assumes that all the mail in /home/mike/spamfile is in fact spam.
> 
> I could do the reverse for ham.
> 
> I also believe that this would not reclassify any the spam...because
> there is the missing -s, -n, or -u.
> 
> Is this even close to right?
> 
> Mike
> -- 
> Barsalou <barjunk at attglobal.net>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Bogofilter mailing list
> Bogofilter at bogofilter.org
> http://www.bogofilter.org/mailman/listinfo/bogofilter
> 
> --A485F2FFE9.1090042210/mail.osagesoftware.com--
> 
> --Boundary-00=_0Kv+Al14or9CpHo
> Content-Type: message/rfc822;
>   charset="us-ascii";
>   name=" "
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> 
> Return-Path: <>
> X-Original-To: bogofilter-bounces+brenda=wallace.net.nz at bogofilter.org
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> 
> This is the Postfix program at host mail.osagesoftware.com.
> 
> I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned
> below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.
> 
> For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster>
> 
> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
> delete your own text from the message returned below.
> 
> 			The Postfix program
> 
> <brenda at wallace.net.nz>: Host or domain name not found. Name service error for
>     name=wallace.net.nz type=A: Host found but no data record of requested type
> 
> --A485F2FFE9.1090042210/mail.osagesoftware.com
> Content-Description: Delivery report
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> 
> Final-Recipient: rfc822; brenda at wallace.net.nz
> Action: failed
> Status: 5.0.0
> Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; Host or domain name not found. Name service error
> 	for name=wallace.net.nz type=A: Host found but no data record
> 	of requested type
> 
> --A485F2FFE9.1090042210/mail.osagesoftware.com
> Content-Description: Undelivered Message
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> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:37:13 -0800
> From: Barsalou <barjunk at attglobal.net>
> To: bogofilter at bogofilter.org
> Message-id: <1090042633.4915.309.camel at localhost>
> MIME-version: 1.0
> X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-7)
> Content-type: text/plain
> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
> Subject: Testing if it works
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> 
> After reading the man page again, I started thinking that the following
> command would help me identify good -o values:
> 
> cat /home/mike/spamfile | bogofilter -e -p -M -o 0.8,0.2 | grep -e
> ogosity
> 
> If an entry comes back as Unsure, then my values need to be changed. 
> This assumes that all the mail in /home/mike/spamfile is in fact spam.
> 
> I could do the reverse for ham.
> 
> I also believe that this would not reclassify any the spam...because
> there is the missing -s, -n, or -u.
> 
> Is this even close to right?
> 
> Mike
> -- 
> Barsalou <barjunk at attglobal.net>
> 
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> Received: by mail.osagesoftware.com (Postfix)
> 	id DC5552FFB5; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 01:30:10 -0400 (EDT)
> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 01:30:10 -0400 (EDT)
> From: MAILER-DAEMON at mail.osagesoftware.com (Mail Delivery System)
> Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
> To: bogofilter-bounces+brenda=wallace.net.nz at bogofilter.org
> MIME-Version: 1.0
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> Message-Id: <20040717053010.DC5552FFB5 at mail.osagesoftware.com>
> 
> This is a MIME-encapsulated message.
> 
> --A485F2FFE9.1090042210/mail.osagesoftware.com
> Content-Description: Notification
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> This is the Postfix program at host mail.osagesoftware.com.
> 
> I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned
> below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.
> 
> For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster>
> 
> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
> delete your own text from the message returned below.
> 
> 			The Postfix program
> 
> <brenda at wallace.net.nz>: Host or domain name not found. Name service error for
>     name=wallace.net.nz type=A: Host found but no data record of requested type
> 
> --A485F2FFE9.1090042210/mail.osagesoftware.com
> Content-Description: Delivery report
> Content-Type: message/delivery-status
> 
> Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.osagesoftware.com
> X-Postfix-Queue-ID: A485F2FFE9
> X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822;
> 	bogofilter-bounces+brenda=wallace.net.nz at bogofilter.org
> Arrival-Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 01:30:00 -0400 (EDT)
> 
> Final-Recipient: rfc822; brenda at wallace.net.nz
> Action: failed
> Status: 5.0.0
> Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; Host or domain name not found. Name service error
> 	for name=wallace.net.nz type=A: Host found but no data record
> 	of requested type
> 
> --A485F2FFE9.1090042210/mail.osagesoftware.com
> Content-Description: Undelivered Message
> Content-Type: message/rfc822
> 
> Received: from nic.osagesoftware.com (localhost.osagesoftware.com [127.0.0.1])
> 	by mail.osagesoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A485F2FFE9
> 	for <brenda at wallace.net.nz>; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 01:30:00 -0400 (EDT)
> X-Original-To: bogofilter at bogofilter.org
> Delivered-To: bogofilter at mail.osagesoftware.com
> Received: from mmp-1.gci.net (mmp-1.gci.net [208.138.130.80])
> 	by mail.osagesoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908672FDE4
> 	for <bogofilter at bogofilter.org>; Sat, 17 Jul 2004 01:29:51 -0400 (EDT)
> Received: from [192.168.0.101] ([24.237.92.128])
> 	by mmp-1.gci.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar
> 	18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I0Z00G6UDXBCS at mmp-1.gci.net> for
> 	bogofilter at bogofilter.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:29:37 -0800 (AKDT)
> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:37:13 -0800
> From: Barsalou <barjunk at attglobal.net>
> To: bogofilter at bogofilter.org
> Message-id: <1090042633.4915.309.camel at localhost>
> MIME-version: 1.0
> X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 (1.4.5-7)
> Content-type: text/plain
> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
> Subject: Testing if it works
> X-BeenThere: bogofilter at bogofilter.org
> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
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> List-Id: bogofilter users list <bogofilter.bogofilter.org>
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> Sender: bogofilter-bounces+brenda=wallace.net.nz at bogofilter.org
> Errors-To: bogofilter-bounces+brenda=wallace.net.nz at bogofilter.org
> 
> After reading the man page again, I started thinking that the following
> command would help me identify good -o values:
> 
> cat /home/mike/spamfile | bogofilter -e -p -M -o 0.8,0.2 | grep -e
> ogosity
> 
> If an entry comes back as Unsure, then my values need to be changed. 
> This assumes that all the mail in /home/mike/spamfile is in fact spam.
> 
> I could do the reverse for ham.
> 
> I also believe that this would not reclassify any the spam...because
> there is the missing -s, -n, or -u.
> 
> Is this even close to right?
> 
> Mike
> -- 
> Barsalou <barjunk at attglobal.net>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Bogofilter mailing list
> Bogofilter at bogofilter.org
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