Filters That Fight Back
Matthias Andree
matthias.andree at gmx.de
Thu Sep 4 14:02:39 CEST 2003
Matt Garretson <mattg at assembly.state.ny.us> writes:
> In addition to the forged-address/innocent-bystander issue, I think
> that generating bounces for spam is likely to "fight back" against
> you more than it would against any spammers. My guess is that, more
> often than not, your bounce message will simply bounce right back
> to you,
While "fighting back" may hurt yourself more than the spammer, it will
not happen through bounced bounces, as the bounce will be sent with a
NULL return path and cannot be returned. If you're seeing
double-bounces, that's something created locally and doesn't cause
bandwidth traffic unless you forward your postmaster address to an
external site.
I was under the impression that "fighting back" would mean attacking
those URLs form a spammer's mail that are advertised. I. e. if you're
getting these "look at my new website + URL" spams, that would mean
matching the URLs (or hosts, FWIW) and downloading those sites that are
known spammer's sites, to cause the spammer traffic volume.
However, if the site is on a virtual server (several servers on one IP),
it's going to hurt innocent bystanders again.
> decide where to send a bounce. Of course, this would likely require
> integrating bogofilter with your MTA in an atypical manner (e.g. a
> sendmail milter).
Indeed - or a proxy.
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